Monday, July 16, 2018

Detective Conan Speculations


So I haven't read or seen Detective Conan in some time now. I didn't drop it, mind you, because I don't drop series. I merely pick off where I left off. For example, even if I am not a fan of The Big Bang Theory, I know where I would pick off last in order to give my full opinion.

Admittedly, long runners would be tiring. I'm gonna pick up on OP somewhere in the Reverie arc since the remaining Strawhats arrived in Wano now.

I'm going off-topic.

But let's go!

We got the boss's name, the BO's true name, and the Rum arc currently ongoing. Aside from the fact we're in some murder case which is rather gory right now, the major plotlines are what we should be concerned about.

I was really surprised when we learned the boss's name and one mentioned in an old chapter too. Aoyama stated that the boss had been name-dropped before, mentioned if I recalled correctly...not appeared in person. Technically, the guy appeared...as a silhouette.

So yeah knowing that this guy supposed to have been dead for half a century with money to burn and one evil guy who was perfectly willing to sacrifice anyone in his way, innocent or otherwise. He's the Moriarity to Shinichi's Holmes. Hey, at least Shinichi got to act out his Holmes fantasy at a major cost.

We can already guess Vermouth is a part of his plan for immortality/antiaging/shrinking just by her youth alone. So by that logic, she must be related in some form to Karasuma.

I think we're in the final legs of DC right now. I mean we don't know how far we are to the finish line. However, there's a difference between this and One Piece. In One Piece, I have no clue; I have an idea of returning characters and islands...but I have no clue about future islands. Who knows? Maybe we are going to travel to the Red Line for the Sniper Kingdom.

I'm digressing again...

I wanted Bourbon to be loyal to BO while also being close to Conan. I guess we got that with Rum. I mean Rum is close in proximity to Conan enough to antagonize him. Like not publically but the presence is enough for Conan to feel, even without Haibara's sensory.

I get the idea of involving the Japanese Special Defense because not involving the Japanese at this point would make them look stupid. I get characters not getting the complicated ways of murders the Metropolitan or common detectives like Kogoro could not solve without some help. I get gathering the smartest characters in the entire series for a plan. I get characters not telling another in order to get a genuine response to a plan.

Having American-born Japanese is one thing but a true Japanese born help solving the case is another. Even if we are following the Silver Bullet who would bring down the BO, there would still be an authority that would help destroy it. Not involving the Japanese authority even at the highest at this point would be bad.

I wonder if they would involve the Interpol too... We are getting Amuro's superior apparently...

Plotwise, it seemed strong. Admittedly, I have only been seeing the romances plot, backstory plot, and main overarching plot/BO arcs. Skipping the typical murder plots would be discouraging but I needed the plot at this point, not cases that would just demonstrate Conan's smarts. Even if the plot just gathered overpowered smart people together. I'd much rather have multiple levels of intelligence in one place but have their functions like sprouting out things the smart people never thought of but hit the nail nonetheless. I want those kinds of intellect but I want to have the Watsons in the team to assist the situation just as much as the Holmes/Queens/whatever in the cases.




In terms of death, I don't see a future in sight for Vermouth and Gin. I can see a lot of people like Chianti and Vodka staying in prison and not breaking out. Gin is the type of character to break out of jail and commit crimes again.

So yeah, in terms of death on the BO's side, Vermouth and Gin. Possibly others who are too loyal to their boss and crime spree.

On our heroes' side, anyone who has a romantic partner is out of the running. I don't think Megure would count but the superintendents do. It has to be major so maybe Megure's boss could be a candidate.

I don't think Kogoro should count as a candidate. Remember about Eri here. The romances in Detective Conan pointed too much at a happy ending. I have to point that out: the romances are too definitive and hammered. I love Sato X Takagi, my favorite pair out of all the police couplings in the series just because I loved how developed they are and good they are for each other; I can't see Aoyama break apart romances unless they are a one-shot character in a case. Even if technically he broke up couples from DEAD pals of his main characters, it still remained the fact that he would want the current couplings to be happy. We worked too damn hard for Kogoro not to die in the end. Although the timeline took place in less than a year, still in a more realistic setting (complicated murders aside, Apotoxin and disguise without a voice changer is not one bit realistic. Considering that DC takes place in the same world as Magic Kaitou, a world that undoubtedly has magic - looks at Akako, Pandora Gem... - you know that this world is not quite as realistic one might hope to be), the fact Conan, Haibara, and Kogoro not going to die due to cancer or poisoning should still be there. However, happy ending, folks so no cancer or poisoning for our main protagonists.

Aoyama stated it would be a happy ending so I think that while they'll be major deaths in the heroes' side, that side would suffer a bittersweet one while the villains would suffer the most including Vermouth.

Look, I love Vermouth. I just don't see a future for her. Repentant or otherwise, her arc pointed to death. Her youth, her goals, and her noble qualities have to mean something.

On the FBI/CIA/JSD's side, some superiors maybe. James Black or/and Andre Camel is a likely victim. Given how much we know about Jodie, it's unlikely she'll die.

I don't think Akai Shuichi will die in the end. That would ruin the point of having a happy Akai family again since the family was fractured.



Admittedly, I am surprised about just how low or naive Jodie and Ran had become. Seriously, I think I could tell Ran an apocalypse would come on Christmas Eve of 2016, she'll believe me. I'm not even joking. I love Ran but her naivety was getting too much even for a high school teenage girl. I wasn't this naive. Conan, despite his efforts, was horrid about keeping secrets. Seriously, I think Takagi still kept in mind of the "I'll tell you...in the next life" moment. The police listened to him and probably had a running joke, aside from the morbid joke that Kogoro might be a Shinigami, that Conan should start acting how he should act instead of falsifying a kid's behavior when he should. I get that they wouldn't put two and two together about a fantastical drug that shrunk a teenager into a kid or an adult into a middle schooler but they know enough of Conan to know he's not a kid by a stretch of the imagination. It's not like Haibara made any hints that she's creepy as fuck. She reportedly acted like a mini adult.

Digressing again.

Seriously, Ran's naivety was less than pleasing for her character. I love Momiji but I don't find her character as exasperating as Ran.

I get that Ran is supposed to be this angel that shouldn't be tainted. But when she had a part in a BO plot namely the Vermouth portion, it's annoying. She wouldn't be innocent forever. She saw dead bodies since Conan became part of her family. She won't stay in the shadows forever.

Conan is horrid about keeping secrets. Much more now that he and Ran are now a couple. I damn expect Ran to know or suspect something wrong that Conan and his crew cannot stop or consider. If I were her, I would be suspicious again when Conan appeared at my restaurant date with Shinichi. This time, I would keep silent about my suspicions and gather more evidence. I won't care about Haibara wearing a Conan disguise because my guts instinct points to Conan is Shinichi. Even if I am hurt Shinichi is lying to me, I would wait for him to come to me and tell the truth. A reason why I love this xxxHolic/DC crossover so much.

I just want Ran to become a bigger part of the plot and to be less naive. If the Kudos, Amuro, and Akais are part of the big plot so can she. Even if her part was simply the morality pet of multiple characters and a civilian.

I do think I can tell anything and she'll believe me. Even apocalypses where Persona-users are trying desperately to save the goddamn world. I could tell her the Third Impact is coming and she'll believe me. I can tell her anything from the end of the fucking world from multiple series or to even saying the fucking purgatory existed or even Santa Claus is true and living in Finland. Even when she shouldn't.

That is how badly I think her naivety had gotten. She may not be a detective but no teenage girl should be this naive. It just puts a target on her head from scammers.

As for Jodie, I just want her to be badass again. I get Kir though because her appearances were limited and moreover spying. I get Vermouth because she's still the Vermouth I love with noble qualities. She's no Akemi or Haibara because I don't think ruthlessness would not exist without her in the picture. I understood some characters don't have the same information or network as others since the Akais seemed to be working on their own problem.

But you know, just gather all your overpowered male detectives as well as Yukiko in one corner for a plot development that other characters need to know like say the fucking FBI and CIA. Get together with everyone and pool your information. Amuro knows the Americans are in Japan so get the fucking move on. Gather your numbers and information. I doubt the BO would consider anyone bringing them down any time soon.

Just Jodie... Jodie... Her importance was so limited, much more because of her backstory. We don't know anything about Camel or Black but we know about Starling.

All we get from Jodie was longing for Akai. Now that she knows Akai is alive, she should get out of that rut, right? I get that you suffer from a breakup that you didn't get over nor did Akai got over his lover's death. I just want more out of Jodie.

I am not expecting a vengeful rampaging Jodie since she's more professional than that. Her importance in the story so far was a longing for Akai and some help in plot...but not much else. I want Aoyama to break the mold like how Narita wrote his women. Till this day, I love Namie and her savagery. I want to write a character like Namie one day because she is utterly amazing. Although I don't like his writing of Vorona since his writing did not break anything regarding her archetype unlike how he broke the archetypes of his other important characters, his characters played important roles to each other and the plot development.

I just want Jodie's story to be back in dramatic fashion. I want an intensity between Vermouth and Jodie as much as Gin and Akai. I would understand you would want to avoid the designated cat fight but give me anything at least. I would have anything at this point to have Jodie be awesome again, not this headache-inducing gal.


While Detective Conan is one of my favorite manga, it's far down the list. Like it's still pretty good. Again, there are flaws that need to be done, preferably over the official couple and writing of the ladies. Far too much focus on the romances there. Not even ACD's Sherlock Holmes focused on the romantic aspect and thank god for that.

I don't mind the romances because I love the romances including the recent Yumi X Haneda Shukichi. Although some of the romances were wearying like Chiba X Naeko because it is becoming tiring to see childhood friends get together at this point. I want someone to meet someone new and become a relationship there which is why I am so invested in Sato X Takagi and Yumi X Shukichi. I don't want childhood friends' romances at this point in DC. It's one thing if they met once before but it's another when they spent their lives together which is why I liked one case where a blind lady tried to find a boy known to eat ginger. Even one meeting as kids should suffice. Seriously, I don't mind high school romances because they aren't childhood friends at least which is why I'm partially invested in Sonoko X Makoto. Give me anything not childhood friends in this series and I'll be happy.

I want the adventure with just a tad bit of romance, not the romance being the focal point. I can tell in the current murder case was to help that police officer romance. Just like the appearance of Momiji for the HeiKazu romance. When it comes to romances in DC, it's like a flashing neon sign. You can tell what the endgames are therefore you can tell who or what or how the couple would proceed.

On that note, I think I wouldn't mind a romance story, like entirely romance focused, for Gosho Aoyama's next work. Even if it's only a one-shot. It seemed aside from mystery, he focused on the romances just as much and pairing everyone off as best as he can with the exception of the little kids. Even with definitive ships, there is the ship tease he did like ConAi.

From what I saw shipping-wise from this fandom, there were fewer fights about what one must ship since everyone literally knows the endgames so they ship fanon ships whatever they like ShinHei or ShinKai.

To which I say: Thank Godoka.

I'm not as big as shipper as I used to be. Like I'm drawn to certain ships but overall, I don't ship much nowadays. It's not because of the current trends in fandoms which I happily lampooned for their stupidity in something as meaningless as shipping.

I'm probably just going to put an updated Arcana here for Detective Conan. This might be a new thing so this would be recent. Of course, as more characters develop, the more added.

Arcana - Character

Shinichi Kudo/Conan Edogawa - Justice (on one hand, his sense of justice but then there is his continuous lying in the face of the truth he would ardently pursue. It's very likely I won't pick Judgment for this guy. While he undoubtedly changed when he's Conan (preferring a lower presence in media and less egotistic), his sense of justice was way too strong... While he had let would-be murderers go in some instances, the fact he's a detective and his sense of justice and motivation was too close to justice. It's not to say that he's childlike in that because Katsuya Suou represented the Justice arcana too. Listen, it's not because of age but circumstances in life and relationships with others were what the arcana represents.

Ran Mouri - Empress

Heiji Hattori - Magician 

Kazuha - Chariot

Momiji - Lovers

Ai Haibara/Shiho Miyano - Judgment

Shuichi Akai - Hanged Man

Jodie Starling - Lovers (unfortunately, her current mobility is this. Like before, I would have gladly chosen the Priestess in reference of Vermouth but nope. It just didn't feel right)

Sera Masumi - Magician

Takagi Wataru - Temperance

Sato Miwako - Wheel of Fortune

Akai/Haneda Shukichi - Emperor

Vermouth - Priestess

Gin - Emperor

Amuro Tooru/Rei Furuya - Hermit

Renya Karasuma - Devil

Eri Kisaki - Strength

Kogoro Mouri - Moon

Yukiko Kudo - Star 

Yusaku Kudo - Hierophant

Shiratori - Sun

Agasa - Temperance

Genta Kojima - Magician 

Mitsuhiko Tsuburaya - Temperance

Ayumi Yoshida - Star

Sonoko Suzuki - Lovers

Dr. Tomoaki Araide - Hierophant

Makoto Kyoguku - Justice

Akako - Priestess

Kaito Kuroba - Wheel of Fortune

Aoko - Chariot

Jirokichi Suzuki - Devil

Eisuke Hondo - Justice

Rena Mizunashi/Hidemi Hondo - Chariot/Moon

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