Wednesday, January 1, 2020

Rian Johnson, Disney and Insulting People and Fans


Do not insult the fans, especially the fans who buy the stuff continually.

Only a small section of fans will be rabid and loud and attacking. Get this out of your head that everybody in the fandom is like this.

Generalizing like this is not good, especially for people who are merely passionate about what they love. Some would be louder and crueler than others.

20% of the audience will buy stuff continually because they are the diehards. Eighty percent will be the casuals and sure they will buy some stuff but not as often as the twenty percent.

Insulting the twenty percent is what Rian and the media did.

Rian nor the media do not own Star Wars. In terms of the license,  Disney does own it but they do have the indignity to destroy the franchise and fanbase.

Diehards are really finding it hard to get back on Star Wars. They still love the OT and grew to respect the PT.

Do not insult the fans who made the franchise what it is.

If it wasn't for the fans, casual or otherwise, Star Wars wouldn't be the juggernaut it used to be.

I said used to be because Star Wars has lost so much dignity since the Last Jedi and its aftermath.

Star Wars is so big that Disney destroying it just seemed saddening. Star Wars is to make people happy and it's timeless, not to divide and say that this is no longer something yours to make you happy, it's for us and who the fuck cares about lore?! That is insulting for fans who love the lore and made it clear they love and know Star Wars isn't above critique.

Fans and the actors involved do not deserve the hate given to them. They are allowed to hate on something.

As a note, the leads of the ST hate their roles and refuse to return, no matter how the money they are offered. This puts in contrast with the PT cast where they love to return with the exception of Portman.

People are allowed to dislike or like things.

The point is the environment in Hollywood is so toxic to fans.

Nobody is allowed to dislike a movie, just a movie. Not for the many 'progressive' stuff in there, but for being a movie they just don't like.

Now people who just don't like a fucking movie is called so many -ists that those -ists are now buzzwords.

These guys insulting the people who just don't like a fucking movie is not doing the good fight. It's stupid when the proper thing to do is learn and try to get people and the government to provide a better understanding and environment.

Hurting people over a movie is not doing the right thing and spreading a good message.

No, people aren't any of the -ists just for disliking a movie.

That is narrow-minded.

Splitting the fandom, saying that this movie is only for a particular group, and alienating the fans who kept it alive all this time is not the way to go.

Disney only wants to make money. Let's get this out of the way. Disney is not perfect and will never be. Looking behind the veil is not good, especially for admirers.

When the Last Jedi hurts the bottom line up to toy sales dying off that only the OT and PT stuff is only doing well and probably Mandalorian too, Disney worried about the money. If it hurts their bottom line, of course, they would do anything to get that money back.

Why else are they only just getting the Baby Yodas made? Of course, don't believe what Disney says that they are keeping it under wraps. If they were, toys would be already made and sent out after the reveal. But nope, people have to wait until spring to get their items.

And Disney is losing money at the moment at the loss of Baby Yodas right now.

Of course, Disney would discard the media that shilled them that Rian spearheaded in the trolling and attack on the fanbase. I said fanbase because they clearly have it out for the entire fanbase.

Don't hurt the fans who give you money in the first damn place.

This is why Japan understands this because fans and the audience come first. Shounen Jump is particularly brutal because if a series doesn't catch attention in any way, then they'll cancel it and let the same person do something else because what the person doing previously is not good for both the audience and the business.

This is why the Bleach live-action did well because it honored the story and the fans so well fans love it. The reason why fans hate the Bleach finale is that it's just so spiteful.

Oda Eiichiro made an effort to communicate with his fans with the SBS. He knows that the fans are how far he came. If it wasn't for the fans, One Piece wouldn't be the almost religion it is in Japan.

Naruto and Bleach are still popular with fans despite the decline in popularity and rancid finales. Figures and merch are still being produced, especially given the rise of popularity of anime and manga in America especially.

Do not hurt the fanbase. They are the bread and butter of whatever work you created.

As fans and people in general, they have the right to criticize, dislike, or like. Nothing is above criticism. Rian Johnson deserves criticism for the Last Jedi's scriptwriting that apparently a large majority of scriptwriters and producers hate.

Throwing the -ists words to the point of buzzwords just to guilt them is not the right thing to do, not for anybody in the fandom or everyone really.

Even if Final Fantasy right now is not a good state, at least Final Fantasy 15 doesn't destroy Final Fantasy the same way the Last Jedi did for Star Wars. At people are getting reasonably excited for the Final Fantasy 7 remake. I'm especially excited to see the Teen Wolf reunion, especially Tyler Hoechlin, a talented actor that Andrea Romano herself picked, and Cody Christian. Hey, I'm a Teen Wolf fan and I would defend it.

Even Kingdom Hearts 3 is doing reasonably well for Square Enix. Yes, that part of the saga has many issues, including the lack of inclusion of Final Fantasy characters in any form. And what is even remotely Final Fantasy seemed more like a knock against Square Enix for Final Fantasy 15. What would have made the Keyblade Graveyard scene better is the inclusion of the Final Fantasy characters because of the Hollow Bastion war in KH2. And I fucking love that scene! I wondered a lot of the decisions since it seemed more Disney-focused, something that annoyed me, rather than striking a balance of both franchises. And the original story isn't gotten in-depth as it should have, given it's the finale. For all of Disney and some of the good it has like Big Hero 6, the Disney worlds don't seem to relate much to the core story we need of this! And that's with the lack of FF too! Just ugh! Yes, the Final Fantasy aspect being gone in 3 is not a fun aspect for me and that Disney was focused on more rather than the original content and said expansion and the FF in it. It just doesn't strike a balance between FF and Disney all too well when the point of KH is to be that balance of seriousness and deepness of FF and the lighthearted comedy of Disney. KH3 isn't horrible nor is it too disappointing but KH3 - for all its better graphics and gameplay and Verum Rex - doesn't even compare to KH2 and BBS. Seriously, Zack was such a memorable appearance in BBS that fans don't make an outcry as they did in 3 and Zack was the only FF character to appear in BBS; again, his appearance was so memorable people made theories. I'm fucking hoping Re:Mind doesn't disappoint me and at least made sure that the original content and FF is given the attention it deserves. Because too much Disney is bad Disney in KH. The Disney worlds felt more tacked on than usual; when nobody complains about the FF content in KH beyond hoping some resolution but complained just how tacked on the Disney content is... Even if the Disney characters are more connected to the plot, the FF subplots should deserve the same dignity rather than tossed aside just because you have too much fucking content! I don't believe that, not when the Disney worlds felt more tacked on than being relevant to the actual plotline! Put the FF and original content back in there and explain and explore the original content that the FF exists in the context of! Dragon Quest is getting reasonably popular too. Even the FF7 Remake is getting better attention and I'm excited to see that!

And guess what? Square knows they wouldn't be where they are if it weren't for the fans who kept it alive.

Because the economy in Japan knows the fans are where the money is at. Gundam is doing well because of this, welcoming new and old fans alike in their new series! They know they have to accommodate the fans, not pander, but give the fans who made them what they have grown. Why else would be many events for fans like USJ and other unique stuff like a themed cafe? Anime figures are such big business after all. Japan is so upfront about loving their pop culture that they don't care that people find it weird to have themed cafes after Kamen Rider and Pokemon. It's a part of their culture and they are proud of it.

Compared to the woke media and Rian Johnson, they found it better to insult the fans, the very fans who would spread the word, not even thinking the general audience is the main reason. While fans will bring in the money, it's the general audience is the one who will make the final call.

The woke media and the arrogant Rian Johnson really don't understand the audience and the fans. All they care about is their own ego.

Woke media is all about ego, not even caring about trying to help the people they supposedly want to 'rise up' and don't do the research. Do they even know what a 'nice guy' is? A nice guy is not Arthur Fleck version of the Joker, it's Hal from Megamind. Whenever I see the media try to tank Joker, not only is it heartbreaking for a movie that isn't even released yet but the pure misinformation about what a 'nice guy' really is getting out there.

Rian Johnson obviously cares about his fragile ego because he kept trolling the fans and insisting that behavior that even the trolled fans have enough and ignored him, not caring his behavior might rub people the wrong way and his defensive manner in interviews is headache-inducing.

Do not insult the fans or anybody just for having a different opinion. It's not because of the -isms that these people supposedly have. Some people might have it but that's not the point.

What they want are good quality movies.

Black Panther, Creed, and Into the Spiderverse shows that black leads can do well. It's the quality of these stories with great acting is what people kept saying.

Rian Johnson was the one who really normalized hurting the fans just for having a different opinion. He's so petty he won't let go, even when Disney already stepped over him and Kathleen Kennedy for hurting the bottom line.

He just won't let go because his ego is just so fragile that his movie is even just disliked. Directors had learned to move on from bad movies and even take it with grace...Some not but at least they know how to handle it.

Rian just doesn't know how to take his movie is being disliked by so many people and that he hurt so many people in his crusade that he's right when he's not right.

And his deliberate trolling and attacking of fans are not good for anybody.

He isn't a Star Wars fan nor is JJ Abrams. At least Star Trek isn't too badly damaged since it's a continuous series and all JJ did was do a reboot that only became Star Trek with the last movie. Discovery might damage the brand...

Rian didn't help the destruction of the brand in the aftermath. What fans felt in the Last Jedi was what Leia felt when Alderaan was destroyed.

Rian and Disney...

Star Wars and most things come with a built-in fanbase. Why else do you think people keep buying Star Wars stuff anyway?

Rian should never ever set foot in a series with a build-in fanbase ever again. I will never let him touch a series with such a thing ever again. It's obvious all he cares about is his own ego and that he somehow 'subvert' than doing the right thing and make an enjoyable thing for fans and moviegoers alike. He's so egotistic that I can literally feel it from his tweets and interviews and I did was just glean from it.

Disney...you won't ever lose the fanbase or try to get a new one. You made movies for no one but the social justice creed people.

I don't think bad fanfiction should be compared to the Sequal trilogy. Fanfiction is made by fans with love and either they do have the skill to make the story in their head a reality is something up in the air. Fanfiction Mary sues are forgiven since they are beginner writers then. Fanfiction is just creative writing.

The sequel trilogy is not creative writing. It's money-grubbing hate for a franchise who made people happy. It's hate for the people who created it all possible.

When George Lucas is no longer the hated person in the fandom, you know Disney fucked up so badly.

The legacy the Disney Star Wars sequel trilogy would leave behind would not be a good one.

It normalized bullying the fans who made it all possible, normalizing bullying people who dislike a simple movie just because they aren't into art - listen, movies are art, but the way they are portraying it seemed like 'my opinion is better than yours purely because I know high cinema and love it and you are a insert-ist and/or -phobe manbaby. I don't care if you have legit reasons like pacing or pointless filler, you are this and that and I have the superior opinion), destroying what the creator had in mind, the people who helped create it in the phenomenon it became it did.

When the prequel trilogy, for all its faults, is still Star Wars for fans, the sequel trilogy is not so much. You can list any flaws of the prequel trilogy and what had been said is already been said. Nobody manages to find anything wrong about the prequels beyond what had already been known.

The sequels... No matter where I look, people manage to find something wrong with it even with the piles of mistakes people had already found. The longer you mine it, the more serious it ended up performing. That is the situation with the sequel trilogy. Even two years later, the Last Jedi is called out for more mistakes I have ever seen from a Star Wars movie.

The fractured fanbase, the Star Wars movie base, forcing Star Wars to go tv and streaming...

Yeah, Star Wars had been killed by the Last Jedi and its grave was further ravaged by the Rise of Skywalker.

What I hope for fans is to regain their hope and not look at the sequel trilogy as some kind of salvation. They shouldn't lose their enthusiasm now, not when Star Wars need love more than ever.

Yes, looking at the OT and PT is going to be marred by the ST's decisions. I can't look at the ST without thinking it ruined the rhymes and mythos of OT and PT and just how ST's potential was ruined for the sake of 'subversion' and piss-poor representation with only rep considered by radicals.

What I hope for Disney, Rian Johnson, and Kathleen Kennedy is to look at themselves and think insulting people who just are passionate about something warrant ostracization.

All I want out of Disney is to get out of their rear end because their woke is not doing any good for helping the cause and get their creative juices going. They weren't the ones that managed the beautiful animation of Klaus and Into the Spiderverse. This isn't the company that transformed a fucking cat dance from the Sleeping Beauty ballet into Maleficent's spell.

Disney is no longer what it once was. For all his faults, Micheal Eisner wanted to create something. Iger just wanted IPs. While he did acknowledge and willing to give Nomura the go-ahead and faith in Kingdom Hearts and Disney owning Kingdom Hearts whereas Square Enix was in charge of the rest excepting needing help from the Disney people for recreation, Iger is a businessman first and foremost. Eisner may make creative blunders but he is at least trying to create a Disney experience rather than making it high-end everywhere. Iger made good business decisions but also made bad business decisions.


Since this is going wrong again...

Let me make this clear: A majority of shippers are actually sane and don't actually expect their ship to be canon. Shipping is supposed to be a fun subsection of a fandom where they just like the two people together for all kinds of reasons.

The general audience doesn't care about the ships. All they care about is the story.

Again, you can ship Reylo or Batjokes. You can be aware of their unhealthy nature but that should not stop you from shipping it.

But the small section of insane shippers who will go out of the way to bully and demonize somebody just for not shipping something or shipping something for problematic elements.

A huge problem in Tumblr and a lot of spaces is puritanism. They say you can't ship this or support this series just because it has problematic elements or glorifies something.

When shipping is supposed to be free. Acknowledging the flaws of the ship but people use the unhealthiness to explore or use as power from a formerly abused party member. Shipping is fun as fandom is supposed to be.

I used to enjoy VLD but the declining story and characters and the glorification of war without any irony which I can blame on USA's massive military propaganda are so bad. You can literally see the decline in VLD season to season.

The shipping fanbase of VLD is too loud about puritanism. Just ship anything else and you would be called out for an age difference. When ships are supposed to explore anything you wish to.

I will defend shipping as a practice, crackshipping for example.

However, I won't defend people who bully and belittle others for shipping something they don't. And I will not stand people denigrating shipping for shipping unhealthy relationships for puritan reasons. When shipping called for the ability of power for a formerly abused party member and general fun exploring dynamics. Shipping has everything to know of and to explore into.

It's simply the general audience that doesn't care.

And if people only care for the ship and don't care for the other stuff available, I worry about your state of mind. Hell, people are willing to attack others just for not having their ship canon.

When shipping is supposed to be fun.

And not necessarily wishful thinking for the canon.

Why do you care about making it canon when you have your power of creating fanworks and analysis?

I know Cloud and Tifa are canon while I very much prefer Cloud and Zack whereas Tifa has Aerith.

I know there is little chance for Zoro and Sanji to get together canonically while Pudding and Sanji seem more likely.

People are allowed to ship what they want regardless of issues with the people they are shipping.

But they should not belittle and bully others just for shipping something they don't for puritan reasons.

Shipping doesn't have much power in the general atmosphere at all. Unless people invite it by presenting it as a foremost thing.

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